Comments on: Learning the car http://carfreaks.net/content/2007-12/learning-the-car Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:53:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Speedou http://carfreaks.net/content/2007-12/learning-the-car/comment-page-1#comment-390 Speedou Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:38:24 +0000 http://carfreaks.net/content/?p=160#comment-390 Hi, thanks for your nice comment of the car and good tips! I think I should have a few laps with some very good driver who could give me some tips and tell me where is my biggest problems. I'm already staying on the brake when entering the corner. Bigger problem is when I come out of the corner. I will test some new suspension setups at the spring. Now everything is easier, because I'm familiar with the car. Next summer will be harder to me than to car :) Hi,

thanks for your nice comment of the car and good tips!

I think I should have a few laps with some very good driver who could give me some tips and tell me where is my biggest problems. I’m already staying on the brake when entering the corner. Bigger problem is when I come out of the corner. I will test some new suspension setups at the spring. Now everything is easier, because I’m familiar with the car. Next summer will be harder to me than to car :)

]]> By: Juha http://carfreaks.net/content/2007-12/learning-the-car/comment-page-1#comment-389 Juha Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:45:49 +0000 http://carfreaks.net/content/?p=160#comment-389 Hey man, Very interesting stuff! I love the M Coupe, especially the Z3 generation. Best ///M car hands down! While you mentioned that you have an agressive driving style, looking at the videos I have to totally agree with you. I'm not a pro but I get to drive with the pro's at every PCA track event. All of them (and I really mean all) preach how important it is to be smooth. This is especially important with the rear engine Porsches but it applies to all driving. I was fighting my car (with a somewhat agressive style) for sometime before I focused on being smooth. That changed everything! The car at first felt unbelievably hard to control at the limit but with the smooth driving style it is a bliss to control. The less you change your steering angle and line during the corner, the better you keep the car planted. Of course when you're driving at the limit, you have to constantly make corrections but they should be very very fine corrections applied way before they're even neeeded. Same smoothness goes to gas and brake inputs, it will help you a lot! The other thing about the understeering, maybe you could try to load the front by staying on the brakes a little longer when you enter the corner. This will not only give you more traction at the front but will lighten the rear and help you rotate the car better. I was thought this trick some time ago and I use it all the time now. It helps especially well with the 911 as it has hardly any weight in the front to begin with... Hey man,

Very interesting stuff! I love the M Coupe, especially the Z3 generation. Best ///M car hands down!

While you mentioned that you have an agressive driving style, looking at the videos I have to totally agree with you. I’m not a pro but I get to drive with the pro’s at every PCA track event. All of them (and I really mean all) preach how important it is to be smooth. This is especially important with the rear engine Porsches but it applies to all driving.
I was fighting my car (with a somewhat agressive style) for sometime before I focused on being smooth. That changed everything! The car at first felt unbelievably hard to control at the limit but with the smooth driving style it is a bliss to control.
The less you change your steering angle and line during the corner, the better you keep the car planted.
Of course when you’re driving at the limit, you have to constantly make corrections but they should be very very fine corrections applied way before they’re even neeeded.
Same smoothness goes to gas and brake inputs, it will help you a lot!

The other thing about the understeering, maybe you could try to load the front by staying on the brakes a little longer when you enter the corner. This will not only give you more traction at the front but will lighten the rear and help you rotate the car better.
I was thought this trick some time ago and I use it all the time now. It helps especially well with the 911 as it has hardly any weight in the front to begin with…

]]> By: Speedou http://carfreaks.net/content/2007-12/learning-the-car/comment-page-1#comment-388 Speedou Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:12:38 +0000 http://carfreaks.net/content/?p=160#comment-388 Nice to hear someone really reads these texts :) Good tips and at the next summer I will start to learn adjusting the car better and also giving my self a hard time. Maybe I have to switch the clock of for a few times and just try to focus how to get all out of the beast. Nice to hear someone really reads these texts :)

Good tips and at the next summer I will start to learn adjusting the car better and also giving my self a hard time. Maybe I have to switch the clock of for a few times and just try to focus how to get all out of the beast.

]]> By: ml http://carfreaks.net/content/2007-12/learning-the-car/comment-page-1#comment-386 ml Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:18:35 +0000 http://carfreaks.net/content/?p=160#comment-386 Very interesting stuff to read, even though we have discussed these topics over the season. :) Finding a perfect setup is never-ending challenge. Especially when you get fully familiar with the car, you can feel a difference even with the smallest changes (e.g. 0.1bar change in tire pressure). I'm sure there are many improvement areas to find the optimal setup, but also keep in mind that there is no setup that would not ever understeer. It's also about balancing your driving style to the setup. Personally I find it actually easier to achieve quick and steady laptimes with slightly understeering car, even though slightly oversteering setup is more fun to drive... It so much about the exit speed... :) Very interesting stuff to read, even though we have discussed these topics over the season. :)

Finding a perfect setup is never-ending challenge. Especially when you get fully familiar with the car, you can feel a difference even with the smallest changes (e.g. 0.1bar change in tire pressure). I’m sure there are many improvement areas to find the optimal setup, but also keep in mind that there is no setup that would not ever understeer. It’s also about balancing your driving style to the setup.

Personally I find it actually easier to achieve quick and steady laptimes with slightly understeering car, even though slightly oversteering setup is more fun to drive… It so much about the exit speed… :)

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